A Lesson From Revver.com

A Lesson From Revver.com

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https://haveaircustoms.com/eyhb2pth I really don’t have anything techie to talk about today, so lemme recap what I can remember from a dinner with Steven Starr (was founder and CEO of Revver) last night. It was a really pleasant and insightful event. We talked many things from how desperate Indonesian internet pipe are to other web 2.0 topic.

https://www.estaciondelcoleccionista.com/iinm2lbyzyz To keep things short, Steven told us about what he had done with revver and what mistakes he won’t repeat. You are very wrong if you are seeing Revver as a common Youtube like service with a twist. It wasn’t. First of all, it was designed to be monetized in a non evil way. Content creator got a share of revenue, and people who spread it will also get a revenue. The second, Revver was designed around P2P concept.

https://drurymirror.org/2023/10/19/1y1lbyiuu54 P2P was not evil at all, as what most of us perceive it today. It was a brilliant technology designed to reduce bandwidth cost. It suddenly became evil and everyone using it also labeled as evil after Napster case.

https://nicomuhly.com/news/2023/27e2ess Revver concept would have really took off if only Youtube not launched few weeks before Revver plan was executed. Steven learn here that momentum is important. I learned that fast delivery is important.

http://www.docstrangelove.com/2023/10/19/3ltx78gwy3c Steven said while Revver business model was obvious, Youtube beat them at scalable game. Revver was hard to scale because they need to vet every content to make sure there are no copyright infringement happen. Youtubewas all you can throw and all you can see. Youtube were smart as they know how to “work” with the copyright issue.

https://lavoixplus.com/index.php/2023/10/19/biy6wudqh Enda then asked whether it is make sense to create some sort of special search engine for Indonesia. Steven advised, without a niche approach it would be a futile effort as the big guy can easily catch up by deploying internationalization (i18n). It would be a different story if we start a news service, or anything that has specific local value. (My take: Big guy can’t beat (all) these locally-specific service, instead it would trigger acquisition)

https://filmsofnepal.com/ofp9uasn However, Steven added, search engine game is not over yet. Semantic search is not even here. So there might be many opportunities lays ahead.

Unspun continued the discussion, wonders how can Revver be sold. The key is technology. Revver value was not only derived from profit sharing between content creator and publisher. It was more than that. Technology is what people would buy from a startup. So, now we know, we can develop new tech then created direct and non direct business model from it.

Okay, my summary is very jumpy. But I hope you guys and gals can read between the line.

I can’t be more than thankful to US Embassy for inviting us to meet Steven Starr. Dinner was a blast, and we all hope Steven can come again this year to speak at Pesta Blogger or FreSh!

https://www.fesn.org/?gyt=nxifaoyk Noo, Mr. Perry from US Embassy didn’t bite me. He’s very nice and has a great sense of humour. I giggled most of the time.

http://diversity411.com/uncategorized/s9fn2ny3hmz I almost forgot, Steven told us the different between being number one and number two. It was like earth and the sky. This pretty much aligned to what Seth Godin said in The Dip

13 thoughts on “A Lesson From Revver.com

  1. http://diversity411.com/uncategorized/xmyylyfnup Your summary is much better than I would be. 😀 He also mentioned that Web 2.0 business is a long term projects, not short term. Business plan for Web 2.0 project is quite different than in US. In US the target is to be acquired or bought by bigger companies, while in Indo we can’t expect something like that would happen here. 😛 They’re focusing in gaining as much traffics and users and contents as much as they can, with focus on innovate technology, while here is still a bit of copy paste from the them.

  2. Ambien Overnight Mastercard #1 lesson:
    revver just like napster on video. U can’t face the future using obsolete business model.

    Zolpidem Online Paypal #2 lesson:
    P2P isn’t evil. Like radio, you just can’t be multimilionaire exploring that business.

    #3 lesson:
    The 2nd always be looser if you play boxing like business. So, secure yourself. Be a racer or play golf. You can enjoy your sampaign even you finish 2nd.

  3. P2p obsolete coused by technology it self. Cloud computing, cheaper storage, better infrastructure, n greater capital drive youtube, google, or even FB into massive bussines. No limitation to connect one another like con option (T1, ADSL, modem, etc) like napster was.

    Order Ambien Cr Online Its like anything turn into single massive company which offer you anything you need, include free storage.

    https://filmsofnepal.com/wbrvyancumz Internet business model always moving forward. So, i think we better analize what future will be, not resurrect an old failed business model.

    1. Old failed business may have failed because it wasn’t ready for prime time. In Revver case, one of it was technological aspect.

      Buy Ambien Cr 12.5 Online Old stuff can come back as new. Take a look a Map/Reduce (Hadoop) technology. Google has used this internally. But they never sold it as a product beyond their search engine. If they ever tried to sell it, I don’t think people will buy it. But what do you know, today Amazon has started offering Hadoop in their EC2.

      https://lewishamcyclists.org.uk/p43ey9b8wsr So, I don’t think P2P is going to fade soon :). Distribution is and will always be an issue. People will be much greedier to consume even bigger pipe.

      Well, that’s my two cents 😀

  4. https://fladefenders.org/k5bjgmh8q97 It’s fading already, dude 🙂 …since napster.

    https://totlb.com/uncategorized/dx41nrgi28w Sevver failed because it didn’t wait for new technology, as mention above (mean that savver still use old technology (P2P) right? Which was so famous n usual. Maybe he tought that the only problem about P2P is copyright), but youtube as boxing opponent bring new technology and new business model. Youtube came earlier using newer tech comparing with sevver which came after using older tech. Came late using older tech? Oh, boy. It’s like entering the ring only to get punch and Knock Out. A nighmare he never forget.

    *ini catatan kaki
    yg di atas cm nebak kisah yg sebenarnya, hehe. Asumsinya: CEO ya jaga gengsi dong di depan para inlander. Masa bilang “wah gua launch pake teknologi napster, kan lagi ngetrend ntuh, pasti ngehitz abis, e ga taunya keduluan youtube yg pake cara baru. Tapi ya gua nekat aja. Bodo bgt ya gua. Makanya ente jangan tiru gua. Daripada nekat, mending ente ulang lagi nunggu teknologi baru, drpd jd great expectation kyak gwa baru nyaho” . Gitu kali yg sbenernya, hehe…
    *catatan kaki usai

  5. I think it’s more due to a series of unfortunate events, such as:

    1. Technology – YouTuber Flash vs. Revver QT. Flash has bigger market share that QT.
    2. Timing – So much money invested into QT-based infrastructure & development. But not long after, Flash and YouTube comes around. Now, I am running out of money to re-do things. Ouch! Crap!
    3. Content – Revenue sharing with publisher is good to promote a limited high quality material. However, it is less reasons for users to distribute the contents. Therefore, less viral in marketing stand point.
    4. Copyright – Bermain api tidak apa, asal jangan ikutan asset pribadi. YouTube mungkin saja masih MINUS dalam urusan revenue, sampai sekarang. Makanya dibiarkan berdiri sendiri oleh Google. Bajakan khan lebih enak disebarin 🙂

    PS: Jadi mengingatkan situs download video yg aku jalankan dr kamar asrama. IP di block, sampe port internet juga di block. Old times… 🙂

  6. My take: Big guy can’t beat (all) these locally-specific service, instead it would trigger acquisition

    Kalau gw ga salah, jaman gw SD dulu ada catcha.co.id, search engine lokal. Bahkan dulu sampe iklan di televisi. Tapi tetap kalah kok sama google. Bahkan memilih tutup!.

    Gw rasa dia punya poin dalam hal ini. Melokalkan itu efektif.

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